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Deadly strike work for catapult shot and flameburst shot?
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giasone wrote:Deadly strike work for catapult shot and flameburst shot?


Sure, just like every other WDM skill. But you're probably not building those with a physical damage weapon, so it's unlikely to do anything useful, because deadly strike only multiplies phys damage (before conversion).
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Siosilvar wrote:
giasone wrote:Deadly strike work for catapult shot and flameburst shot?


Sure, just like every other WDM skill. But you're probably not building those with a physical damage weapon, so it's unlikely to do anything useful, because deadly strike only multiplies phys damage (before conversion).


damn, i guess i'm building it wrong then... like REALLY wrong. didn't realize that's how it worked HAHAHA. at least that inefficiency didn't hamper my progression too badly. but technically if you are building those skills with a phys damage weapon then it will help.

question about "target takes additional damage of x", what does this mean, like what type of damage is the target taking, when is this applied, etc.

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HeaT_ wrote:question about "target takes additional damage of x", what does this mean, like what type of damage is the target taking, when is this applied, etc.

Someone wiser might correct this but I think it's pure flat reduce, which means no other than -enemy resist (auras, skills) affects it. There used to be a bug about it applying twice with Doom (assa, amulet proc), I think it's fixed now along with Banish.


Edit: BTW sorry I need to vent:
TTAD reminded me the shit I just don't understand in ARPGs. For example in Grim Dawn, there are two stats: -enemy res % and -enemy res, both work as -% but only latter isn't applicable with other sources and doesn't show it's a fucking %. Median has done neat work getting rid of those but there is still work to be done.
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@HeaT: TTAD is flat phys dmg, separated from your weapon dmg. TTAD will not be multiplied by anything (except for phys pierce which is rare) . The dmg only deals on your melee attack. Means if you have 100 TTAD and hit enemy once with Canage or Divine Judgement, then it gives only 100 flat phys dmg, since all other projectiles are strike not attack. You dont have to care about TTAD, it's useless.
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Jampula wrote:
HeaT_ wrote:question about "target takes additional damage of x", what does this mean, like what type of damage is the target taking, when is this applied, etc.

Someone wiser might correct this but I think it's pure flat reduce, which means no other than -enemy resist (auras, skills) affects it. There used to be a bug about it applying twice with Doom (assa, amulet proc), I think it's fixed now along with Banish.


Edit: BTW sorry I need to vent:
TTAD reminded me the shit I just don't understand in ARPGs. For example in Grim Dawn, there are two stats: -enemy res % and -enemy res, both work as -% but only latter isn't applicable with other sources and doesn't show it's a fucking %. Median has done neat work getting rid of those but there is still work to be done.


GD has three resist reduction stats. -X% resist (stacking flat), Y% reduced target's resist (non-stacking %), Z reduced target's resist (non-stacking flat), applied in that order. This same thing applies to every debuff in that game (though most don't have all 3 types, e.g. "target's damage" is only %), it's plenty consistent except for the fact that there's a spare % on the stacking type that's a bit confusing.

examples of each from the devotion tree: Solael's Witchblade, Viper, Rhowan's Crown

Maertsy wrote:@HeaT: TTAD is flat phys dmg, separated from your weapon dmg. TTAD will not be multiplied by anything (except for phys pierce which is rare) . The dmg only deals on your melee attack. Means if you have 100 TTAD and hit enemy once with Canage or Divine Judgement, then it gives only 100 flat phys dmg, since all other projectiles are strike not attack. You dont have to care about TTAD, it's useless.


This was correct until Gavin fixed it a few patches ago.

TTAD is now (again) a second hit added to every weapon damage missile that connects with the target.
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Hi all

I wanted to combine the occult effigy "Path of brutality" (found in 2.7) with my ring Giants knuckle, putting both in the cube doesnt work. Any ideas why?
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sunstrider wrote:Hi all

I wanted to combine the occult effigy "Path of brutality" (found in 2.7) with my ring Giants knuckle, putting both in the cube doesnt work. Any ideas why?


The ring needs at least +1all ?, if it has +0 all it doesnt work.
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McLovin wrote:
sunstrider wrote:Hi all

I wanted to combine the occult effigy "Path of brutality" (found in 2.7) with my ring Giants knuckle, putting both in the cube doesnt work. Any ideas why?


The ring needs at least +1all ?, if it has +0 all it doesnt work.


Oh dang, that makes sense, it doesnt. Why is that? the effigy says Cube with unique ammy/ring. O.o Is that only applicable to this effigy or all of em?

My initial thoughts were that it transforms the +all skills of all your gear to DS, but I guess it only applies to this very item? :(
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sunstrider wrote:
McLovin wrote:
sunstrider wrote:Hi all

I wanted to combine the occult effigy "Path of brutality" (found in 2.7) with my ring Giants knuckle, putting both in the cube doesnt work. Any ideas why?


The ring needs at least +1all ?, if it has +0 all it doesnt work.


Oh dang, that makes sense, it doesnt. Why is that? the effigy says Cube with unique ammy/ring. O.o Is that only applicable to this effigy or all of em?

My initial thoughts were that it transforms the +all skills of all your gear to DS, but I guess it only applies to this very item? :(


Path of Brutality transforms the +skills stat to deadly strike of the item where the effigy is applied. So you would need to use the effigy on an ammy or ring that gives at least +1 all skills to gain any deadly strike.