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well, imo erawan is a better armor for us since it has 25%vit bonus and we're full vit spec. May or may not add up to more life than dragonheart. drink a potion too for jday. if you're not comfortable letting your life get low just keep it up with pots. pots + eagle + tb should be enough to keep you full. then when one of the bosses spawns run up to him and burn him down with RoL. You should have at least 80k per second damage with it so it should take 3-4 seconds at most.

We're not really trying to tank jitan's guard towers. just force them to walk through the hallway and therefore through our ring of light deathtrap. lay down your RoLs and get out of there while they all die.
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just curious....how much defense would you need to tank the guard towers, anyway?
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evil_potato wrote:well, imo erawan is a better armor for us since it has 25%vit bonus and we're full vit spec. May or may not add up to more life than dragonheart. drink a potion too for jday. if you're not comfortable letting your life get low just keep it up with pots. pots + eagle + tb should be enough to keep you full. then when one of the bosses spawns run up to him and burn him down with RoL. You should have at least 80k per second damage with it so it should take 3-4 seconds at most.

We're not really trying to tank jitan's guard towers. just force them to walk through the hallway and therefore through our ring of light deathtrap. lay down your RoLs and get out of there while they all die.


Sorry, I made a mistake, in fact I am using Erawan and not Dragonheart :)

I also ate an apple to try Judgement day, but still, somehow I get whacked. I also have +145% Fire Damage now. RoL does 49k-147k dmg now so that's 98k on average right?
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are u able to kill malthael/imperius before u die? also, that's +145% w/o superbeast, right? superbeast at your point should add another ~150% to that. u're using superbeast, right? also, u're not trying to kill the barbs in Jday, are u? they're invincible

with about +2-300% you should be able to kill him pretty fast
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nealn wrote:are u able to kill malthael/imperius before u die? also, that's +145% w/o superbeast, right? superbeast at your point should add another ~150% to that. u're using superbeast, right? also, u're not trying to kill the barbs in Jday, are u? they're invincible

with about +2-300% you should be able to kill him pretty fast


Well, I have played this mod on and off since Median 2008, but I never played this build before and I have always had trouble with the Judgement Day. Basically the only char that I thought it was 'easy' with was a Totem Necro.

Of course, I didn't manage to kill them sadly. Otherwise it would make my life easier :)

Also trying to run Tran, K3K Dest is easy, but it gives me about 1 Set or SU every 2~3 clears. I bet that is not really a good droprate when you're trying to get better gear. Actually did about 15 clears in K3K and only got around 4 set pieces and 1 SU (Nimmenjuushin).
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ok. well saying "somehow i die" isn't really helping us help you. what is killing you? are the tremors dropping your life down the a sliver and then you're getting hit by the boss's projectiles? are the edyrem pouncing on you? are you getting killed by the nuke the bosses use?

@nealn i have 20k hp, >50%dr, >400 flat dr, and 688k def with terror strike up. I still don't try to tank guard towers. :D
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hrm, u must be doing something wrong. i went back and calculated how much spell dmg u should be able to reach with the gear changes i suggested. even being conservative (assuming no perfect rolls), you should be able to reach ~250% spell dmg. idk y u'r only getting 145. with ~250% from gear and another ~100-150% from superbeast, Ring of Light should be able to kill them in only ~3-4secs, before they have a chance to use their nukes.

i'm not sure ur shrine crafting, mo'ing, and rerolling your rare ammy and rings properly.

you don't need sets or SU's to do Jday. i did it without any. again, i think that u're prob not getting enough +spell dmg. if that's the case, i can run u thru proper crafting, but without details we can't be sure what's going wrong.

like potato says, give us details.

@evil potato: wow, even with those stats, they're still that dangerous, huh? goodness....
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OKay I have put more effort into getting my gear right. On top of that I just dropped a Dreamflange in K3K which significantly improves my pally :shock:

Stats are as follows:

Fire pierce: 100%
Fire spell damage: 317%
Max res: 90 all
MF: 245%
Life: 11.563
Def: 295k
Char-sheet damage: 56k~169k RoL
DR: 60% (is this overkill???)
FCR: 170
OW: 50
FRW: 30

I guess I am just not good at coordinating my attack because the problem is that somehow the boss doesn't die fast enough and I end up getting nuked all the time.

Sorry if I'm unclear, I had an operation yesterday and today again and I am in a lot of pain which makes me dizzy and causes nausea.
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Alright, no idea what I was doing wrong, but I just improved a bit more on my gear and Malthael died in like a few seconds, I think it was 4-5 seconds.

Only problem is it takes a long time to spawn, maybe it works better if I use Edyrems instead of Hoplites.