Melee Necromancer

[Ausbilder]

how would you equip a disco mancer then, if you use eternal and shaad scyte ?

[Ever_A_Noob]

lack of a proc makes it a bad choice compared to

Seven Heads of Tathamet

Stealthmaster, would love your opinion on gear - I got lucky and found an ethereal

Wing of the Dragon God

- no proc, but the damage is godly, and other modifiers useful (sadly no MOs on eth items). Otherwise, I was going Sur + Xi route for my main weapon (parasite offensive build). Was thinking maybe Demonic Touch, Blind Anger for procs on gloves. Or Cat's Pounce (when I find one) or Tennousuuhai for procs from headgear.

Is there something wrong with

Strength Beyond Strength

Strength Beyond Strength
Gothic Plate (Sacred)
Defense: (8339 - 9198) to (10115 - 11157)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 675
Item Level: 120
Adds 25-40 Damage
150% Bonus to Attack Rating
+50% Damage to Demons
25% Life stolen per Hit
10% Deadly Strike
+(172 to 200)% Enhanced Defense
1% Reanimate as: Random Monster
-5 to Light Radius
Socketed (6)

? The on striking proc is useful, plus I've already stacked -efr and fire spell damage for dragonfire oil. I'm not convinced the Area Effect Attack helps much (I can't really tell tbh). It seems more useful than

Scales of the Serpent

Scales of the Serpent
Gothic Plate (Sacred)
Defense: (7481 - 8308) to (9074 - 10078)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 675
Item Level: 105
15% Chance to cast level 40 Arachnomancy on Melee Attack
4% Chance to cast level 12 Time Strike on Striking
(31 to 40)% Hit Recovery
+90% Damage to Undead
Adds 200-300 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
-35% to Enemy Poison Resistance
5% Chance of Crushing Blow
Weapon Physical Damage +(25 to 30)%
+(144 to 171)% Enhanced Defense
+100 to Strength
+50 Life on Melee Attack
Socketed (6)

since I'll get time strike from the Vizjun charm, if I can ever get it.

[Dude Love]

I'm no Stealthmaster, but I've been toying a lot with this build. Wing of the Dragon God has no +x skills, no CB(!) and no proc, and it also doesn't have the massive quad-resist pierce that Tathamet has. Although there's dammaj, it doesn't actually have stuff you WANT.

SotS is god for a couple of reasons. If you're going sha'ad scythe and have constant punishers, that + tathamet will net you a flat -100 poison resist right there, not to mention 10% CB. Carpet of Spiders is a sweet proc too, and LoS is nothing to sneeze at since it doesn't get scaled like life leech does.

[Crash]

SotS is god for a couple of reasons. If you're going sha'ad scythe and have constant punishers, that + tathamet will net you a flat -100 poison resist right there

How did you plan on using tzeentch and tathamet at the same time?

[Ever_A_Noob]

If you're going sha'ad scythe

Lol, I wish. I have to find a goddam Sha'ad first

[Ever_A_Noob]

How did you plan on using tzeentch and tathamet at the same time?

Dual wield scythe necro, you haven't tried it yet?

[Stealthmaster]

an ethereal

Wing of the Dragon God

- no proc, but the damage is godly

The damage is godly indeed - i can confirm it because I too found an eth

Wing of the Dragon God

this ladder. Sadly, it still doesn't stand a chance against full Rathma set setup and

Chthon (Xis)

.

Was thinking maybe Demonic Touch, Blind Anger for procs on gloves. Or Cat's Pounce (when I find one) or Tennousuuhai for procs from headgear.

Cat's Pounce

is meh, apart from +1 skill, nothing is really superb on it.

Tennousuuhai

is fine but still worse than

Royal Circlet

Royal Circlet
Tiara (Sacred)
Defense: (1740 - 1957) to (1968 - 2214)
Required Level: 100
Required Dexterity: 392
Item Level: 105
+2 to All Skills
+50% Damage to Demons
+50% Damage to Undead
+(140 to 170)% Enhanced Defense
(21 to 25)% to All Attributes
Elemental Resists +(25 to 30)%
Physical Resist 5%
(21 to 25)% Magic Find
Socketed (4)

as you don't need Magic Resists throughout the game much and the proc is a joke. Both gloves you mentioned would be a nice choice.

Is there something wrong with

Strength Beyond Strength

Strength Beyond Strength
Gothic Plate (Sacred)
Defense: (8339 - 9198) to (10115 - 11157)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 675
Item Level: 120
Adds 25-40 Damage
150% Bonus to Attack Rating
+50% Damage to Demons
25% Life stolen per Hit
10% Deadly Strike
+(172 to 200)% Enhanced Defense
1% Reanimate as: Random Monster
-5 to Light Radius
Socketed (6)

? The on striking proc is useful, plus I've already stacked -efr and fire spell damage for dragonfire oil. I'm not convinced the Area Effect Attack helps much (I can't really tell tbh). It seems more useful than

Scales of the Serpent

Scales of the Serpent
Gothic Plate (Sacred)
Defense: (7481 - 8308) to (9074 - 10078)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 675
Item Level: 105
15% Chance to cast level 40 Arachnomancy on Melee Attack
4% Chance to cast level 12 Time Strike on Striking
(31 to 40)% Hit Recovery
+90% Damage to Undead
Adds 200-300 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
-35% to Enemy Poison Resistance
5% Chance of Crushing Blow
Weapon Physical Damage +(25 to 30)%
+(144 to 171)% Enhanced Defense
+100 to Strength
+50 Life on Melee Attack
Socketed (6)

since I'll get time strike from the Vizjun charm, if I can ever get it.

SBS has a really nice proc that shines when you get -100 enemy fire resists. Area Affect Attack does not matter much because the main damage goes from procs (Flamefront, Crucify, Guard Tower, Punisher etc.) so the armor choice is really flexible. I still prefer SotS because it gives you free poison pierce, which is great if you don't want to MO your gear much. Uninterruptable Attack greatly helps in Fauzt where you can get owned quickly if your attacks were interrupted with you falling into hit recovery animation.

[Ever_A_Noob]

Sadly, it still doesn't stand a chance against full Rathma set

I'm currently using full Rathma's - the set just seems kinda mediocre.

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Set bonuses:
20% Life stolen per Hit
Increase Maximum Life 20%
100% Chance to cast level 19 Crucify on Attack
50% Faster Run/Walk
50% Chance of Crushing Blow
+150 to all Attributes
+5% to All Maximum Resistances
All Resists +65%
Total Character Defense Plus 150%

Apart from the 20% max life / 100% crucify / 50% guard tower procs, the other items are mediocre to bad (especially boots and belt).

I'm not sure, just experimenting at this point. Finding

Ahriman

Ahriman
Belts
'VezGhal'
Runeword Level: 115
+1 to All Skills
+15 Spell Focus
Adds 100-300 Fire Damage
Adds 100-300 Lightning Damage
Adds 100-300 Cold Damage
+(31 to 50) to all Attributes
Maximum Elemental Resists +1%
Elemental Resists +(31 to 40)%
Requirements +10%

nice for def and elemental damage

[Stealthmaster]

I'm currently using full Rathma's - the set just seems kinda mediocre.

It's mediocre compared to very endgame gear, but, imo, it wins against

Chthon

Chthon
Necromancer Scythes
'UmSurMal'
Runeword Level: 75
13% Chance to cast level 10 Crucify on Kill
25% Chance to cast level 3 Tremor on Kill
50% Attack Speed
+(50 to 70) to Maximum Damage
+(250 to 400) to Attack Rating
+(101 to 125)% Enhanced Damage
5% Chance of Crushing Blow
Weapon Physical Damage +75%
3% to All Attributes
Regenerate Mana +15%
Elemental Resists +10%
+(80 to 100) Life after each Kill

(not Xis) and any crafted gear setup. The full set bonus is not a joke.

[Ever_A_Noob]

Is there a reason you recommend maxing Famine over Deathlord?

Both give +10% damage per level, and the STR/DEX and TCD boost from Deathlord hard points seems more useful than the 1% life leech from famine hard points. (I can make crafted life leech jewels fairly inexpensively)

PS - Rathma's set is too strong for the Black Road Tran challenge, I had to use my T2 Black Cat to avoid killing everything with one Parasite