Thunderzon in new patch

[Anonymous:]

And from lvl 3 to lvl 60 - apocalypse staff. Best option for hatred. You will not be using thundercrack though.

[Fumbles]

Ya apoc + stormcall worked for me through hatred. I also used queen of glass, aerin orbiter,

Sphinx

until

Bona Dea

Bona Dea
Amazon Helms
'TalPul'
Runeword Level: 55
40% Cast Speed
0.5% to Lightning Spell Damage (Based on Character Level)
-(16 to 20)% to Enemy Lightning Resistance
0.5% to Cold Spell Damage (Based on Character Level)
-(16 to 20)% to Enemy Cold Resistance
+(9 to 11) to Hailstorm
+(9 to 11) to Electrobolt
5% to Energy
Lightning Resist +25%
Cold Resist +25%

and honorific gloves/boots for resists/pierce. rings for spell damage and eventually skills. skill amulet with more fire/light stats. But for Thundercrack:

Titan's Burden

Titan's Burden
Spangenhelm (4)
Defense: (113 - 131) to (170 - 197)
(Amazon Only)
Required Level: 11
Required Strength: 34
Item Level: 19
3% Chance to cast level 3 Shower of Rocks on Melee Attack
Stun Attack
3% Chance of Crushing Blow
+(35 to 57)% Enhanced Defense
(7 to 10)% to Strength
Physical Resist 5%
Socketed (1)
Defense: (401 - 450) to (562 - 631)
(Amazon Only)
Required Level: 29
Required Strength: 68
Item Level: 36
5% Chance to cast level 9 Shower of Rocks on Melee Attack
Stun Attack
5% Chance of Crushing Blow
+(81 to 103)% Enhanced Defense
(15 to 18)% to Strength
Physical Resist 7%
Socketed (3)
Defense: (1028 - 1132) to (1419 - 1563)
(Amazon Only)
Required Level: 47
Required Strength: 237
Item Level: 67
7% Chance to cast level 15 Shower of Rocks on Melee Attack
Stun Attack
6% Chance of Crushing Blow
+(126 to 149)% Enhanced Defense
(23 to 26)% to Strength
Physical Resist 9%
Socketed (4)
Defense: (1548 - 1685) to (2118 - 2306)
(Amazon Only)
Required Level: 55
Required Strength: 473
Item Level: 85
9% Chance to cast level 18 Shower of Rocks on Melee Attack
Stun Attack
8% Chance of Crushing Blow
+(149 to 171)% Enhanced Defense
(27 to 30)% to Strength
Physical Resist 10%
Socketed (4)

- Has high str requirement but at tier 4 its about the same as t6 Jitan's Armor. Sor on attack, crushing blow and dr% or just use

Auriel's Halo

Auriel's Halo
Tiara (4)
Defense: 31 to 67
Required Level: 8
Required Dexterity: 21
Item Level: 1
+1 to All Skills
Adds (3 to 5)-(6 to 8) Fire Damage
Adds (3 to 5)-(6 to 8) Cold Damage
Fire Resist +(11 to 15)%
Cold Resist +(11 to 15)%
Socketed (2)
Defense: 86 to 162
Required Level: 25
Required Dexterity: 43
Item Level: 31
+1 to All Skills
Adds (11 to 13)-(13 to 18) Fire Damage
Adds (11 to 13)-(13 to 18) Cold Damage
Fire Resist +(21 to 25)%
Cold Resist +(21 to 25)%
Socketed (2)
Defense: 180 to 322
Required Level: 43
Required Dexterity: 103
Item Level: 51
+(1 to 2) to All Skills
Adds (31 to 45)-(51 to 70) Fire Damage
Adds (31 to 45)-(51 to 70) Cold Damage
Fire Resist +(31 to 35)%
Cold Resist +(31 to 35)%
Socketed (3)
Defense: 247 to 437
Required Level: 51
Required Dexterity: 220
Item Level: 77
+2 to All Skills
Adds (51 to 70)-(121 to 140) Fire Damage
Adds (51 to 70)-(121 to 140) Cold Damage
Fire Resist +(36 to 40)%
Cold Resist +(36 to 40)%
Socketed (4)

for the ele dmg (lame).

Jitan's Kamon

Jitan's Kamon
Splint Mail (4)
Defense: (184 - 208) to (370 - 418)
Required Level: 6
Required Strength: 30
Item Level: 19
2% Chance to cast level 1 Guard Tower on Kill
Adds 2-4 Fire Damage
Adds 2-4 Lightning Damage
Adds 2-4 Cold Damage
+(24 to 40)% Enhanced Defense
Physical Resist 2%
Socketed (2)
Defense: (592 - 656) to (1106 - 1225)
Required Level: 23
Required Strength: 60
Item Level: 36
4% Chance to cast level 1 Guard Tower on Kill
Adds (4 to 8)-(8 to 15) Fire Damage
Adds (4 to 8)-(8 to 15) Lightning Damage
Adds (4 to 8)-(8 to 15) Cold Damage
+(58 to 75)% Enhanced Defense
Physical Resist 3%
Socketed (4)
Defense: (1466 - 1596) to (2663 - 2898)
Required Level: 41
Required Strength: 210
Item Level: 51
6% Chance to cast level 1 Guard Tower on Kill
Adds (16 to 30)-(31 to 45) Fire Damage
Adds (16 to 30)-(31 to 45) Lightning Damage
Adds (16 to 30)-(31 to 45) Cold Damage
+(92 to 109)% Enhanced Defense
Physical Resist 4%
Socketed (5)
Defense: (2175 - 2352) to (3925 - 4244)
Required Level: 49
Required Strength: 420
Item Level: 85
8% Chance to cast level 1 Guard Tower on Kill
Adds (31 to 60)-(81 to 120) Fire Damage
Adds (31 to 60)-(81 to 120) Lightning Damage
Adds (31 to 60)-(81 to 120) Cold Damage
+(109 to 126)% Enhanced Defense
Physical Resist 5%
Socketed (6)

- Tri ele dmg for all the weapon dmg procs which is abundant on this gear, also dr% and guard tower proc

Chargebreaker

Chargebreaker
Setzschild (4)
Defense: (492 - 573) to (969 - 1127)
Chance to Block: 4%
(Amazon Only)
Required Level: 12
Required Strength: 39
Item Level: 10
1% Chance to cast level 1 Guard Tower on Kill
(10 to 15)% Block Speed
+(35 to 57)% Enhanced Defense
(8 to 10)% to Strength
(8 to 10)% to Dexterity
Physical Resist 5%
Physical Damage Reduced by (3 to 5)
(8 to 10)% Bonus to Defense
Socketed (1)
Defense: (1695 - 1902) to (3048 - 3418)
Chance to Block: 4%
(Amazon Only)
Required Level: 30
Required Strength: 77
Item Level: 31
2% Chance to cast level 1 Guard Tower on Kill
(20 to 25)% Block Speed
+(81 to 103)% Enhanced Defense
(14 to 16)% to Strength
(14 to 16)% to Dexterity
Physical Resist 7%
Physical Damage Reduced by (9 to 11)
(14 to 16)% Bonus to Defense
Socketed (3)
Defense: (4287 - 4723) to (7550 - 8319)
Chance to Block: 4%
(Amazon Only)
Required Level: 47
Required Strength: 270
Item Level: 51
3% Chance to cast level 1 Guard Tower on Kill
(30 to 40)% Block Speed
+(126 to 149)% Enhanced Defense
(20 to 22)% to Strength
(20 to 22)% to Dexterity
Physical Resist 9%
Physical Damage Reduced by (15 to 17)
(20 to 22)% Bonus to Defense
Socketed (5)
Defense: (6416 - 6983) to (11272 - 12268)
Chance to Block: 4%
(Amazon Only)
Required Level: 56
Required Strength: 539
Item Level: 77
4% Chance to cast level 1 Guard Tower on Kill
(40 to 50)% Block Speed
+(149 to 171)% Enhanced Defense
(23 to 25)% to Strength
(23 to 25)% to Dexterity
Physical Resist 10%
Physical Damage Reduced by (18 to 20)
(23 to 25)% Bonus to Defense
Socketed (6)

- Huge defense, dr% and flat, MOAR guard tower, stats for summons, dex% and some tcd. This shield finally has a home
Honorific War Scepter with spike nova/crucify and crushing blow

Deadfall

Deadfall
Heavy Belt (4)
Defense: (135 - 159) to (178 - 210)
Required Level: 7
Required Strength: 36
Item Level: 19
2% Chance to cast level 2 Shower of Rocks on Kill
1% Chance of Crushing Blow
+(24 to 46)% Enhanced Defense
+(16 to 25) to Strength
Lightning Resist +(11 to 15)%
Socketed (1)
Defense: (485 - 551) to (616 - 700)
Required Level: 24
Required Strength: 62
Item Level: 36
2% Chance to cast level 4 Shower of Rocks on Kill
2% Chance of Crushing Blow
+(69 to 92)% Enhanced Defense
+(36 to 45) to Strength
Lightning Resist +(21 to 25)%
Socketed (2)
Defense: (1270 - 1400) to (1595 - 1758)
Required Level: 41
Required Strength: 218
Item Level: 51
2% Chance to cast level 8 Shower of Rocks on Kill
3% Chance of Crushing Blow
+(115 to 137)% Enhanced Defense
+(56 to 65) to Strength
Lightning Resist +(31 to 35)%
Socketed (2)
Defense: (1918 - 2095) to (2403 - 2626)
Required Level: 50
Required Strength: 436
Item Level: 85
2% Chance to cast level 12 Shower of Rocks on Kill
4% Chance of Crushing Blow
+(138 to 160)% Enhanced Defense
+(66 to 75) to Strength
Lightning Resist +(36 to 40)%
Socketed (2)

Sor on kill and crushing blow

Visegrip

Visegrip
Light Gauntlets (4)
Defense: 29 to 56
Required Level: 6
Required Strength: 30
Item Level: 10
5% Chance to cast level 5 Crucify on Melee Attack
+(3 to 4) to Maximum Damage
(21 to 50)% Bonus to Attack Rating
(4 to 5)% to Strength
2% to Dexterity
Socketed (1)
Defense: 120 to 176
Required Level: 24
Required Strength: 60
Item Level: 31
6% Chance to cast level 10 Crucify on Melee Attack
+(6 to 7) to Maximum Damage
(75 to 100)% Bonus to Attack Rating
(8 to 9)% to Strength
(3 to 4)% to Dexterity
Socketed (2)
Defense: 273 to 381
Required Level: 41
Required Strength: 210
Item Level: 51
7% Chance to cast level 19 Crucify on Melee Attack
+(8 to 9) to Maximum Damage
(105 to 125)% Bonus to Attack Rating
(12 to 13)% to Strength
(5 to 7)% to Dexterity
Socketed (3)
Defense: 375 to 522
Required Level: 50
Required Strength: 420
Item Level: 77
8% Chance to cast level 30 Crucify on Melee Attack
+(9 to 10) to Maximum Damage
(130 to 150)% Bonus to Attack Rating
(14 to 15)% to Strength
(8 to 10)% to Dexterity
Socketed (4)

- Crucify and + max dmg or maybe honorific for str orbs

This could work for early-mid but lacks block for when the fun begins. The other downside is that scepters are dex based. I might try this later on, if I learn anything I'll share my findings.

[iwansquall]

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Too bad thundercrack cant proc on-melee, other wise that item idea sound nice.

Is there a specific reason thundercrack doesn't auto-attack if you hold down RMB? Kinda kills the skill for me, can't imagine anyone using it.

thundercrack mechanics are odd because of the skill function it uses. It has a few limitations such as not being able to proc on-melee skills. But the mechanism itself is very unique because it's a melee skill with level-based missile count scaling, there is no other skill like this.

[archon256]

Yeah I went with Honorific scepter myself when I leveled one. Didn't feel that great back then though. Don't think Shark RW would have cut it, I went with Honorific because I wasn't doing enough damage.

I should try it again now that the pierce bug was fixed I guess.

[qweqwe]

hmm? i didn't understand the pierce bug thingy. what was it?

[archon256]

- Thundercrack: fixed a (massive) bug that made lightnings not pierce

[krex87]

Didn't realize there was a stormzon guide already. One of the most detailed guides I've read and answers so many questions about stormzon - thank you suchbalance for the extremely detailed guide

[archon256]

I got to Terror with this Hammer of Zerae zon and I'm giving up. Same criticism I gave before stands, this builds just feels too bad against lightning immunes for me to continue. I'm wearing a T4 Albrecht's Revenge TU for the +cold damage and arrow-on-striking proc and my weapon is a T3 Enyo RW War Scepter. With any other build this much investment should be more than enough, but not here.

Watching rest of enemies disappear in 1-2 seconds and then slowly wearing down regular non-elite, non-uber lightning mobs in Terror Stony Field just isn't fun. If this was a lightning caster build like Mindflay UHC or Tempest Sorc I'd just switch to my second elemental or phys/magic spell and kill them. If it was some other WDM build the physical damage from my weapon or other +/%ele damage from skills would be enough to kill them. But here I have no other element to use and the gap between by physical damage and lightning damage on HoZ is gigantic.

I'm not saying that one skill should be able to clear everything (and I actually hate how Stormcall can do that and hit whole screen in one cast, stupid OP skill IMO), I'm saying I should at least have the option of switching to something else and clearing with the same speed. But right now my only choice is to scale physical or fire/cold damage from gear, and I don't want to spend this much time on it.

Also Hammer of Zerae is pretty bad in LC1. By the time I'm able to get near enemies, cast the spell and have the hammer spiral out and hit them I take way too much damage and can easily die. Only way is to cast it and pull zons through it, but even that is risky and doesn't kill them fast. Thundercrack is worse. I ended up doing it by spamming Fire Elementals and using their death proc. Stormcall makes it easy too.

[noal]

I got to Terror with this Hammer of Zerae zon and I'm giving up. Same criticism I gave before stands, this builds just feels too bad against lightning immunes for me to continue. I'm wearing a T4 Albrecht's Revenge TU for the +cold damage and arrow-on-striking proc and my weapon is a T3 Enyo RW War Scepter. With any other build this much investment should be more than enough, but not here.

Watching rest of enemies disappear in 1-2 seconds and then slowly wearing down regular non-elite, non-uber lightning mobs in Terror Stony Field just isn't fun. If this was a lightning caster build like Mindflay UHC or Tempest Sorc I'd just switch to my second elemental or phys/magic spell and kill them. If it was some other WDM build the physical damage from my weapon or other +/%ele damage from skills would be enough to kill them. But here I have no other element to use and the gap between by physical damage and lightning damage on HoZ is gigantic.

I'm not saying that one skill should be able to clear everything (and I actually hate how Stormcall can do that and hit whole screen in one cast, stupid OP skill IMO), I'm saying I should at least have the option of switching to something else and clearing with the same speed. But right now my only choice is to scale physical or fire/cold damage from gear, and I don't want to spend this much time on it.

Also Hammer of Zerae is pretty bad in LC1. By the time I'm able to get near enemies, cast the spell and have the hammer spiral out and hit them I take way too much damage and can easily die. Only way is to cast it and pull zons through it, but even that is risky and doesn't kill them fast. Thundercrack is worse. I ended up doing it by spamming Fire Elementals and using their death proc. Stormcall makes it easy too.

Idk why you got to Terror and haven't make a Fal zon helm.... and/or roll a Hailstorm amy... if you think Hailstorm is slow then you can also look for shadow avatar in amy - it has timer but has nice aoe, the dmg is great and considering you have cold dmg from fal helm already.

[iwansquall]

he testing WDM storm zon, caster have no problem since buffed with sceptre cast speed.


atm, i dunno why i cant melee like a spearzon despite wearing a shield.
seem like getting hit / block alot

only hammer of zerae work nicely because of high WDM dmg and flat lightning dmg (seem it can multiple hits per target at 1 spot)